1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:23,800 Is there really a monster in Loch Ness? 2 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:29,560 Does this film shot in 1936 but lost until today really show the creature? 3 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:35,000 And does this film shot 41 years later mean the monster is still lurking there today? 4 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:44,040 Is that what Alex Campbell has seen more times than anyone else alive? 5 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:49,680 Mysteries from the files of Arthur C. Clarke, author of 2001 and inventor of the communication 6 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:50,840 satellite. 7 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:55,920 Now in retreat in Sri Lanka, after a lifetime of science, space and writing, he ponders the 8 00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:00,800 riddles of this and other worlds. 9 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:06,240 The monster of Loch Ness is so famous that it's eclipsed all its rivals. 10 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:11,320 Yet there are reports of strange and often very large creatures looming up out of at 11 00:01:11,320 --> 00:01:13,760 least 50 other lakes throughout the world. 12 00:01:41,320 --> 00:01:52,800 Lake Okanagan, Western Canada, 130 miles long, 800 feet deep, and apparently a boat of one 13 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,520 of the world's most frequently glimpsed monsters, Ogo Pogo. 14 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:10,560 Today, Ogo Pogo is the star of a phone-in on local radio station CKOV in Kelowna. 15 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:19,160 Good morning and welcome to Ovey's open line program. 16 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,560 I do believe that's what's going on in here this morning. 17 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:22,560 Teresa, how are you? 18 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:23,560 I'm fine, thank you. 19 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,160 We're talking about the Ogo Pogo today. 20 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:30,080 A lot of people in the area have seen it. 21 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,600 The legend goes on for many years and we'll be talking to some experts. 22 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,480 I believe we've got Arlene Gall coming in. 23 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:35,880 Arlene wrote a book on it. 24 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:36,880 That's right. 25 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,080 But we're going to go to the phone lines right now. 26 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:40,080 Line two, good morning. 27 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:41,080 Hello there. 28 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:42,080 Mr. Puglies. 29 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,080 Yes, go ahead, sir. 30 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:45,360 You want to know about Ogo Pogo? 31 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:46,760 I certainly do. 32 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:47,760 Yeah, okay. 33 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:56,200 I had a taxi and I took a passenger to the hospital and then I was coming down Abbott 34 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:01,280 Street. 35 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,960 And I got far as about here. 36 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,000 I looked at the lake. 37 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:08,000 I was surprised. 38 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,040 I've seen this thing come out of the water. 39 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:15,760 It's like a horse's head with the kind of horns on it. 40 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:20,160 He was huge, you know, standing up there at home. 41 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:25,680 Just like a big serpent. 42 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,720 Another fellow came behind me and said, what are you looking at? 43 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,920 He says, I see no Ogo Pogo over there. 44 00:03:31,920 --> 00:03:33,560 And he says, where? 45 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:34,560 Where? 46 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:35,560 Over there, he says. 47 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:40,960 I had the door open in the car and I stepped out just a little bit and they slipped back 48 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,120 in the water. 49 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,280 And he said, gee, look at the big waves there. 50 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:51,720 And all we can see is big waves going down there to Fred's place where he had the boat 51 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:56,160 rental and they disappeared. 52 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,720 And then I got all excited. 53 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:03,680 I got in the car and I pulled the willow in and I told the people, I said, they were 54 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:04,680 having breakfast. 55 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,720 I just seen Ogo Pogo. 56 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,520 And they says, what the heck, you've been drinking, eh? 57 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,000 Line four, go ahead, please. 58 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,000 Hello, John. 59 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,000 How are you? 60 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,000 I'm not too bad. 61 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,000 Good. 62 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,000 Are you going to give me your name? 63 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:17,000 No, I'm not. 64 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,000 Okay. 65 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,000 Tell me about the... 66 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,600 I saw Ogo Pogo off of Sarcens about four years ago. 67 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:23,600 Okay. 68 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:24,600 You don't want to give your name on the air? 69 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:25,600 No, I don't. 70 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,040 You've told some people, obviously. 71 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:28,540 Uh, yes. 72 00:04:28,540 --> 00:04:31,080 Are you afraid that they might think you're a little bit of a... 73 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,200 Well, I had some strange phone calls. 74 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:36,200 And... 75 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:37,200 I get them every day. 76 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:38,200 That's what they pay me for. 77 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:43,480 Well, I don't get paid for them, so I don't really want any more, thank you. 78 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:50,360 We were up in the beach having a picnic and my daughter was on the swings when I saw this 79 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,520 creature underneath the wharf there. 80 00:04:53,520 --> 00:05:01,200 When I turned around and saw it and realized that it was the legendary Ogo Pogo, I just 81 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:02,200 freaked out. 82 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:03,200 I just ran... 83 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:08,560 I grabbed the baby and ran down to the beach and I guess I yelled over and over, that's 84 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:09,560 him. 85 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:10,880 She was screaming like anything. 86 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:12,080 She just couldn't believe it. 87 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,240 Her face was red. 88 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:19,440 Was fishing or whatever it was doing and it was there for quite some time. 89 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:26,320 Then it straightened out and went along those poles and as it traveled along, it... 90 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:31,880 Just the three humps were showing and they were from one of those end of those poles 91 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:33,640 to the other in the space. 92 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:34,640 The three humps were. 93 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:41,960 It traveled along the beach till about the corner over there and then it turned and 94 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:46,800 went straight across the lake. 95 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:51,000 Now I would hesitate to go on the lake because it's such a huge thing that I think it could 96 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,240 tip a boat over. 97 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,560 And not being a swimmer, I would drown, so I don't... 98 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,120 I haven't been on the lake since. 99 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,800 All right, we're going to break from the phone calls right now and introduce to you some 100 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,320 of this well-known in the Okanagan Valley. 101 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:04,320 Arlene Gall. 102 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,080 Arlene has written the book of the Ogopogo. 103 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:08,080 Good morning, Arlene. 104 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:09,080 Good morning, John. 105 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:10,080 Good morning, Trish. 106 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:11,080 Good morning, Arlene. 107 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,080 How many sightings have you documented? 108 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:14,080 Literally hundreds. 109 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,080 Literally hundreds. 110 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:16,080 When was the first sighting? 111 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,880 The very first sighting was in 1852. 112 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,880 The first documented sighting in 1852. 113 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,360 Okay, 1852 and it's now 1980. 114 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:29,480 Do we take it to mean that there must be more than one Ogopogo? 115 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,400 There definitely appear to be more. 116 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:35,000 There has been a film that was made and I think it was back in 1968. 117 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,680 It's pretty hard not to believe when you see it right in front of your eyes. 118 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,280 Tell us about that film this morning. 119 00:06:39,280 --> 00:06:44,440 The Folden film was taken in 1968 by a gentleman by the name of Art Folden. 120 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,520 He was returning from a trip to his home in Chase. 121 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:53,720 And as he neared the Peachland area, he spotted an object out on the lake and he said to his 122 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,960 wife, look, there's Ogopogo and she laughed at him. 123 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,800 And he got out and started filming the creature. 124 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:05,840 And what we see in the film is a large animate object moving through the water, servicing 125 00:07:05,840 --> 00:07:11,120 and submerging at various speeds and at various times. 126 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:17,320 And it also shows the creature taking off at very high speed, producing a massive weight. 127 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:22,040 And this is the footage in the film that I like very much because you see a creature 128 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:28,280 just pushing water, something terrifically with a massive weight in front, just creating 129 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:29,600 huge wave action. 130 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,560 This is believability on my part. 131 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,560 Have there been any recent sightings? 132 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:39,680 We've had approximately seven to eight sightings this year, but we have one that has been 133 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:40,680 the very best sighting. 134 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:41,680 Why? 135 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:42,680 It was the Rieger family. 136 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,680 It was a beautiful day. 137 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,200 The water was just as calm as glass. 138 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:49,200 And I just took a look across. 139 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,080 I could see a big wave coming. 140 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:56,880 And at that time, I just didn't take much notice of it and it kept coming closer and 141 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:03,680 I thought to myself, why would there be a wave coming if there's no wind or anything? 142 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:04,680 So I called to my son. 143 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,000 I says, come on back here. 144 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:11,520 And I says, take a look and see if you think what the heck's coming down the lake here. 145 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,540 So he took a look at it and he says, gee, I don't know. 146 00:08:14,540 --> 00:08:15,960 So we had his grandson. 147 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:17,800 My grandson was along too. 148 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,440 And he said, hey, grandpa, he says, that's the Ogopogo. 149 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:25,160 It would have ran right into us, but we had to wear the boat off long side. 150 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:30,480 And then we followed it alongside for about, oh, maybe 15 to 20 minutes. 151 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:35,120 And I'd say the monster was possibly 14 to 16 feet long, which was above water, sticking 152 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,920 above about three feet. 153 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,440 And had quite a hump on the front shoulders and had a hump on the back where the tail 154 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:42,440 went. 155 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,720 And I'd say the tail was approximately, oh, probably 30, 40, maybe 50 feet because you 156 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,240 couldn't see the end of it. 157 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:49,240 But he did have a long tail. 158 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,040 He had four legs. 159 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:55,560 And I'd say the monster weighed approximately maybe 30 ton. 160 00:08:55,560 --> 00:09:03,520 And his head in the front was moving from side to side. 161 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:10,200 It seemed like he was looking for fish or feeding or something like that. 162 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:14,560 And he was steering up a tremendous amount of water. 163 00:09:14,560 --> 00:09:16,760 If I would have never seen it, I would have never believed it. 164 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,760 And actually, I don't care if anybody believes me or not. 165 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,600 But I've seen this animal, and I know it's here. 166 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:26,360 And I know it's a tremendous sized animal. 167 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:27,360 That's it for today. 168 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,480 Thank you so much for participating in the program. 169 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,000 We're on tomorrow morning at 8.30. 170 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,440 Have yourself a safe day. 171 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:33,440 Thank you. 172 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:34,440 I'm John Michaels. 173 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:35,440 Bye-bye. 174 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:36,440 I'm Chris Elvis. 175 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:37,440 Bye-bye. 176 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:44,440 Across the world, the lakes that boast monsters also attract posses of intrepid pursuers. 177 00:09:45,560 --> 00:09:53,560 Ready to take to the water at the drop of a hat. 178 00:09:53,560 --> 00:10:01,040 In Loch Ness, Ivor Nubi plus his Amficar. 179 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:06,000 In Lake Okanagan, a midnight vigil by 60 divers in search of Ogopogo. 180 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:10,800 There have been red submarines, yellow submarines. 181 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:15,040 A big game hunter, forearmed with a monstrous cage. 182 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:19,760 In Sweden, a trap for the monster of Lake Störsjö, baited with a pig. 183 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:25,160 And in Japan, sake to inebriate isi, the monster in Lake Ikeida. 184 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:35,160 And the reigning Miss Hibiscus, to inaugurate an isi observatory with round-the-clock surveillance. 185 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:41,120 Oddly, almost all the world's known monster lakes lie away from the tropics. 186 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:47,680 Even the shallow waters of Loch Rhe in Ireland would appear to have a mysterious occupant. 187 00:10:47,680 --> 00:10:54,680 Witness the testimony of three men of the cloth in a boat out one evening in May 1960. 188 00:10:54,680 --> 00:10:59,920 Father Burke, Father Murray and Monsignor Quigley. 189 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:03,240 We were lulling about on the boat, doing nothing. 190 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:08,960 Hoping for a breeze would come up that we could do a bit of fishing at the night rise. 191 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:14,920 And suddenly, Father Quigley said, do you see what I see? 192 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:19,160 What do you see? Look over there, sissy. 193 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,160 So I looked. 194 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,960 I think there's something on top of the water. 195 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,960 Hump, head out of it. 196 00:11:29,680 --> 00:11:34,680 Moving slightly to our right slowly. 197 00:11:34,680 --> 00:11:38,680 I remember saying, what the hell is it? 198 00:11:38,680 --> 00:11:44,680 It wasn't... If it was a fish, you'd see some kind of commotion on the surface. 199 00:11:44,680 --> 00:11:48,680 Or if it was a needle-like thing, you'd see a kind of wriggle. 200 00:11:48,680 --> 00:11:52,680 But there was nothing at all. It could have been the periscope of a little submarine. 201 00:11:52,680 --> 00:11:56,680 My reaction was one of astonishment. 202 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:01,400 Because I knew that it was a very large creature. 203 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:06,400 Larger than any fish that could have been in the lake. 204 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:10,400 Afterwards, we discussed the matter and... 205 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:19,400 Well, we agreed that it was something in the nature of a large serpent. 206 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:25,120 They said we had been indulging too liberally 207 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:29,120 or something that we were seeing strange creatures on the water. 208 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:33,120 Well, I can say quite honestly that we didn't have a zingeral thing 209 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:37,120 in the way of nourishment on that particular day. 210 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:41,120 It was a crocodile. An Irish crocodile. 211 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:45,120 But the rarely seen beast of Loch Rhee is China's personified, 212 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:50,840 beside the granddaddy of all the lake monsters. 213 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,840 Here is the most unusual film of recent years. 214 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,840 It proves the existence of a monster in Loch Ness. 215 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:06,840 The Loch is 21 miles long, 1.5 miles broad and 900 feet deep. 216 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,840 The crosses on this diagram reveal where it is stated that the monster 217 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,840 has been most frequently seen in the past. 218 00:13:14,560 --> 00:13:17,560 And this is the point our cameramen were stationed at, 219 00:13:17,560 --> 00:13:20,560 when after a long and arduous vigil, they actually filmed it. 220 00:13:20,560 --> 00:13:24,560 Through our telescopic lenses, we saw the grey waters suddenly heave 221 00:13:24,560 --> 00:13:27,560 as the monster cut through them with lightning speed. 222 00:13:33,560 --> 00:13:37,560 Chimetic conditions and exposure day and night to bleak and stormy weather 223 00:13:37,560 --> 00:13:40,560 affected our film, which accounts for the misty results. 224 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:45,280 But this is unimportant in comparison to the achievement of filming the monster itself 225 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,280 for the first time in history. 226 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:52,280 This film was taken in 1936, two years after a London surgeon, R. Kenneth Wilson, 227 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,280 snapped the most famous Loch Ness picture of them all. 228 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:59,280 Also in 1934, this strange photograph. Is it a flipper? 229 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,280 Metalworker Hugh Gray took this after church one Sunday. 230 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:06,280 And in 1951, Laughlin Stewart's classic picture of the Humps. 231 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,000 Does this dawn picture show a monster or a wave? 232 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,000 Is this the monster's flank or just a fake? 233 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,000 And does this 1977 picture show the monster's head and neck? 234 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,000 Fifty years of photographs have served only to deepen the mystery, 235 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,000 yet the eyewitnesses are insistent. 236 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:30,000 In this boat, a handful of the 3,000 people who've now reported seeing the monster. 237 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,000 Alex Campbell, Walter Balef on the lock for 47 years. 238 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:42,000 Peter McNab, a banker from Irvine, who took a famous picture in 1955. 239 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:48,000 Accountant Peter Smith and his wife Gwen from Luton, who in 1977 took the most recent film. 240 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,000 I was stunned. It was just taken aback. 241 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,000 I shut my eyes three times to see what I'd imagined in things. 242 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:01,000 And then the head, neck, huge humped body, perfectly clear without any doubt. 243 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:06,720 And I knew right away that that creature was scared because of its behaviour. 244 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,720 The head was growing like that. Quite. 245 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,720 Whoa. Fantastic. 246 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,720 And then I realised, I'd realised itself. 247 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,720 The trawlers were present. 248 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,720 As soon as the bow of the first trawler came with it, my line of vision. 249 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,720 Naturally it was within its line of vision. 250 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,720 And I was surprised. 251 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,440 Oh, heavens. Clunged. 252 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,440 Out of sight. Drawn. 253 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:37,440 Well, I estimated the length of the body at 30 feet at least. 254 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:44,440 The height of the head, neck above water level, 6 feet. 255 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,440 And the colour of the skin was grey. 256 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,440 I saw something beginning to appear. 257 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,440 I saw something. 258 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,160 It was grey. 259 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,160 I saw something beginning to surface. 260 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:02,160 And in a state of very great excitement, took down the camera, 261 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,160 fitted on the long focus lens without looking at anything. 262 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:10,160 By the time I looked up, this creature was showing a black undulating, 263 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:15,160 rather a dark coloured undulating creature, a live creature. 264 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:20,160 A lift to the camera took this shot, which was naturally rather hazy. 265 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,880 Because I had to hold this long focus camera. 266 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,880 There was camera shake, excitement and all the rest. 267 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,880 In the picture is the tower of Arkham Castle. 268 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,880 I understand it's a 40 feet high tower, 269 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,880 which gives an excellent impression of the overall length of the monster. 270 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,880 It's been estimated at between loosely 30 and 40 feet. 271 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,880 And before I could get a second shot or anything else, as far as I remember, 272 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,880 because it's all hazy now with the excitement. 273 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:52,600 Well, we were standing on the south shore of the lock, somewhere up here. 274 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,600 Looking sort of across the lock. 275 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,600 Peter was looking down to an oil jam somewhere further down. 276 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,600 And I was looking across at the castle, just having a look at it. 277 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,600 And this thing suddenly came vertically up out of the water. 278 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:07,600 My first impression was of a periscope-like object, 279 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:12,600 which had a slight lean to it in the water, although the head part seemed to be held horizontally. 280 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,600 It appeared to rise up, but it was a bit of a shock. 281 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,320 It appeared to rise up a considerable height, 282 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,320 at least the height of a man. 283 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,320 And it was, I would say, a good foot thick. 284 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,320 With the naked eye, it was just a black pillar shape, 285 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,320 with a rectangular shape head on the top. 286 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:37,320 At one point, I watched it actually turn its head through about 90 degrees, 287 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,320 because normally it was in profile, 288 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:45,320 but the head slowly turned round until it appeared as though it was either looking directly at us 289 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,040 or directly away from us. 290 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,040 And when it did this, it appeared to be the same thickness as the neck. 291 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:56,040 It disappeared as a separate entity, and then it turned back again the same way as before. 292 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:02,040 I've no doubt that the eyewitnesses have seen and indeed photographed something quite real. 293 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:07,040 But it could have been a skull of fish, the wake of a boat, sea birds, a seal. 294 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,040 Many possibilities have been suggested. 295 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,040 The trouble is it's very easy to be mistaken. 296 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:19,760 For example, this looks like the most famous Loch Ness monster photo ever made, 297 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,760 but actually it was taken right here. 298 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,760 We're at the entrance of Trinkamilly Harbour. 299 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:29,760 Believe it or not, an elephant used to swim across this opening, 300 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,760 and the island on the right is called Elephant Island for that reason. 301 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,760 Now I'm not for a moment suggesting that any of the Loch Ness sightings with users 302 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:42,760 are swimming elephants, but this does show how easily it is to be mistaken. 303 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:49,480 But for all that, for half a century, the lure of Loch Ness 304 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,480 has inspired men to hunt for the monster. 305 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,480 Most dedicated of all the sleuths, Tim Dinsdale, 306 00:18:55,480 --> 00:19:00,480 once an aeronautical engineer and now a veteran of 20 summers living afloat on the Loch, 307 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,480 with some classic monster tales in his locker. 308 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:08,480 I saw an object about 250 yards away, as near as I can guess, 309 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,600 which came out of the water. 310 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,600 At first I thought it was a cormorant snake, 311 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,600 but then you could see that it wasn't a cormorant because it was too big, 312 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,600 and it came out like a black snake, like a black anaconda. 313 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,600 That's what it looked like. It came out of the water like that, 314 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,600 and then it went down, and there was a boil of white foam. 315 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,600 And then it broke surface once again with a boil and went on. 316 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:33,600 I didn't see it again. Very quick seconds, but it was real. 317 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,600 And it had a startling effect on me, as it does, I think, 318 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,720 when you get moderately close to these things, 319 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,720 it suddenly becomes tremendously alive. 320 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,720 And the first thing I did was put my life jacket on. 321 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,720 You see, I don't normally wear one, because you can't live in them, quite frankly. 322 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,720 I've got them around. But the first thing I did was put it on. 323 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,720 Dinsdale's lonely vigil on the Loch began on April the 23rd, 1960. 324 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,720 He was driving along the shore when something caught his eye. 325 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,720 I saw this immense, extraordinary object. 326 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,720 It looked like a back of a huge animal, reddish-brown. 327 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,840 It stood two or three feet out of the water, four or five feet across, 328 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,840 probably nearly as long as this boat. 329 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,840 Quite motionless, reddish-brown and a blotch on the left flank, 330 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,840 which I could see very clearly. 331 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,840 And then, while I was watching, it started to move. 332 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,840 The most electrifying moment. 333 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,840 This huge thing started to surge away across the water. 334 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,840 And I turned to the camera, and I shot about 40 feet of black and white film 335 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,840 at extreme range, but nevertheless it was on film. 336 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,960 This hump going across the water made a huge, glassy wake, 337 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,960 no prop wash visible. 338 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,960 And then it approached the far shore, and then turned through 90 degrees 339 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,960 and progressed under the surface, throwing up a wave 340 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,960 which had since been measured on the film at a height of about two feet. 341 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,960 In 1966, the Royal Air Force Long Range photographic experts 342 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,960 studied the film, and they said the film is not faked. 343 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,960 It's taken from the... approximately the place stated at Loch Ness, 344 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,960 which is about 300 feet up on the shore. 345 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,960 The object scene is neither a surface boat nor a submarine. 346 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,960 It moves up to a speed of 10 miles an hour, 347 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,960 and a cross-section through it, a sausage slice, 348 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,960 would be six feet in width, and as three feet of it is above the surface, 349 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,960 they estimate it will be at least two feet below. 350 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,960 And finally, they said that we think it is probably animate alive. 351 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,960 If there is a monster in Loch Ness, 352 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,960 it now has much more than the camera to steer clear of. 353 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,960 The high technology team led by Roger Parker 354 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,960 leave their shoes on the shore to reduce noise, 355 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,960 when they go stalking with their ultra-sensitive underwater surveillance gear. 356 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:51,960 Their launch is stacked with 40,000 pounds worth of top-notch gadgetry, 357 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,960 not just cameras, but microphones, hydrophones, 358 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,960 machines for monitoring disturbances of the mud on the bottom, 359 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,960 and most significant of all, sonar, as Roger Parker explains. 360 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,960 It's quite famous, this particular instrument we had before us, 361 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,960 as we did in fact, on our very first visit to the Loch, 362 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:16,960 record a large animal in excess of 43 feet in length. 363 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:21,960 And we had it, in fact, on the screen here for over one and a half hours. 364 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,960 The particular animal that we detected, 365 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:31,960 being, although it was large, had in its shadow what appeared to be a baby. 366 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,960 A baby, I mean, a mere 20 feet. 367 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,960 On the second sighting of two smaller ones, which were some nights later, 368 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:43,960 we recorded these on 60mm colour film during the night. 369 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:48,960 But on the sonar screen, they can be seen quite closely together, 370 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,960 representing like a series of joined dots, 371 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:57,960 which of course is the reflective pulses from the transmitted signal, 372 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,960 from the sonar transmitter. 373 00:22:59,960 --> 00:23:03,960 They are both fairly close together, as can be seen, 374 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:10,960 and we firmly believe by the sheer echo and by the nature of the signal we receive, 375 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,960 they must be large, animate objects. 376 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:19,960 An actual fact, the termination of that long-term and most interesting encounter 377 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,960 was the fact that somebody in a local yacht, 378 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,960 presumably on holiday, was unaware of the extent we were having, 379 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:33,960 and decided to use the lube at around about half past five in the morning. 380 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:38,960 So you gather one thing from that that Netty doesn't like flushing toilets. 381 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:43,960 But its American lawyer Bob Rines, who has come closest to proving the monster exists, 382 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,960 using strobe cameras. 383 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:50,960 When these cameras are suspended in the water and are taking pictures, 384 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:56,960 normally they are rather steady, because there aren't very many underwater currents in Loch Ness. 385 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:05,960 We did have a rare episode once in 1975, when we think one of the animals started disturbing our whole rig, 386 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,960 and it bumped into it, knocked it, turned it upside down, 387 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,960 and the camera pointed up towards the surface, took a picture of the boat, 388 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,960 and then suddenly in one frame we took a picture. 389 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:20,960 We think that is of the open mouth and head of one of these animals. 390 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,960 That's a picture that's pretty difficult to say what it is, 391 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:30,960 because it doesn't look like what most zoologists expected from the kind of animal they think the Loch Ness monster may be. 392 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,960 But that's the data, it's the true data, and that's a picture that was taken. 393 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:40,960 Then came the startling head, neck, and flipper shots of 1975. 394 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:51,960 I think we're looking at an animal that may be from 30 to 50 feet long, has a long neck, a very powerful neck, probably a small head, 395 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:58,960 and flippers, at least some of which are somewhat diamond shaped, and a powerful tail. 396 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,960 We like the zoologist to put the name on it. 397 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,960 As a lawyer I can quote what some of our British baristas have told us, 398 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,960 that if the Nessie story had been a murder case, that it had been a hanging long since. 399 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:21,960 Frankly, I'm much more skeptical of lake monsters than of sea monsters, 400 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:27,960 because lakes after all are fairly small bodies of water, and there are plenty of eyewitnesses around them. 401 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,960 And if these creatures come up to breathe, why aren't they seen more often? 402 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:36,960 And if even the Japanese can't catch them, can they really exist? 403 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:06,960 Next week, the Great Siberian Explosion.